Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harold Berman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Dakota 03:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harold Berman

No evidence of notability provided. --Peta 00:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete, db-bio or db-context. wikipediatrix 00:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment No evidence of notability? Says he's the executive director of the Jewish Federation, isn't that reasonably notable? It needs expansion, sure... — riana_dzasta _{wreak havoc-damage report} 00:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It says "The United States Jewish Federation", but the Wikilink doesn't mention the existence of any such entity, and a Google search brings only 21 hits. wikipediatrix 01:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Who knows the article doesn't metnion it. --Peta 00:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

~~OK then, delete. — riana_dzasta _{wreak havoc-damage report} 01:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

Weak keep, Jewish Federation of Greater Springfield seems reasonably notable (518 Ghits, which is not great, but not bad). — riana_dzasta _{wreak havoc-damage report} 04:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as non-notable lawyer. Also, this article has a very strange history...seems is started as a fictional character, and then the text was overwritten with the short stub bio on the attorney, see diff here: [1]. Akradecki 03:55, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Aye, says that there's also a Hey Arnold! character called Harold Berman. — riana_dzasta _{wreak havoc-damage report} 04:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added some text to the article. He is executive director of the Jewish Federation of Greater Springfield in Springfield, Massachusetts, which is a notable position with a notable charitable organization. He isn't just a garden-variety lawyer. I don't know if the reference to the United States Jewish Federation was a mistake or out-of-date information. He's also a former military musician. Eastmain 03:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Looking at WP:BIO, and given his profession and activities, the relevant clause seems to be "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person." So he would have to be noteworthy enough to have several different people publish work about him. I believe news articles might be included there. So the article has no info on that, and given the evidence, I would vote to delete. EdJohnston 04:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Being the executive director of a charitable organization is not enough by itself to warrant having an article under WP:BIO. --Metropolitan90 08:19, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not seem to me have any notabilty other than being executive director of an organisation that is not notable enough to have a wiki entry. Emeraude 11:51, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The fact that no article exists about the Jewish Federation of Greater Springfield does not demonstrate that the gropup is not notable, simply that nobody has written an article about it. Perhaps it is time for someone to do so, starting with the article at http://www.ctjewishledger.com/articles/2006/10/05/west_mass/news/news07.txt -- Eastmain 02:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Sorry but the lack of articles means exactly that--not notable. Glendoremus 08:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The multiple news articles and other references are a strong argument in favor of notability. --Eastmain 02:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable guy who's director of a non-notable organization. Even if the organization was notable, I'd suggest he get included in that article.Glendoremus 08:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator, notability not established even after expansion, failing WP:BIO. RFerreira 01:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.